Comments on: 33 dead after shootings at Virginia Tech http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/ Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:34:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: l.d. http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1057 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:15:10 +0000 http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1057 The state lawmaker proposing a gun ban on college campuses will only create a larger potential safe zone for mass shootings. He does not know or understand what or why this type event happens. Each year millions of crimes are prevented by the mere presence of a gun. The media does not report all the facts. Not once has the media reported more youth drown in swimming pools than die by firearms. The media does not report the fact that guns have prevented crimes. Police does not list on a report when some potential victim scared a criminal away with a gun since no shots were fired and no one got hurt. Sadly the media will not even seek the truth or discuss this subject openly with those of us in the know that work in the streets. The state lawmaker proposing a gun ban on college campuses will only create a larger potential safe zone for mass shootings. He does not know or understand what or why this type event happens.

Each year millions of crimes are prevented by the mere presence of a gun. The media does not report all the facts. Not once has the media reported more youth drown in swimming pools than die by firearms. The media does not report the fact that guns have prevented crimes. Police does not list on a report when some potential victim scared a criminal away with a gun since no shots were fired and no one got hurt.

Sadly the media will not even seek the truth or discuss this subject openly with those of us in the know that work in the streets.

]]> by: robert http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1052 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:26:37 +0000 http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1052 A SOCIETY THAT IS NOT ARMED CANNOT REMAIN FREE A SOCIETY THAT IS NOT ARMED CANNOT REMAIN FREE

]]> by: Ladona http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1049 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:51:46 +0000 http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1049 First I would like to say my heart is weeping for the families and friends of those lost to this earth at VT. I do not feel that there was any wrong doing by the School. The shooter "Cho" went to that school he was informed of the procedures for all events, be it weather, health, violence, and now days terriost attacks. If the school would have went on full lock down, how on earth does any rational person see that happening, there are thousdans of students staying in houseing (on campus, off campus) On campus would be easy, but off not so much. Yes they could have posted officers at the parking lots blocking them from entery, but what about those walking? The thin layer of Police can't be everywhere all the time. If they wen't to full lock down they may have locked the shooter in with the other students, instead of "Cho" going on the "hunt" (as I have heard on the news) if "Cho" just cracked he would not care whom he killed. Now on to the subject at hand. Hand guns DO NOT kill, it is the person behind the gun that kills. We don't need our guns taken away they need to be kept away from the crimials. There needs to be some way to prevent mentally disturbed or crimially unstable persons from legally or illegally acquiring fire arms of any kind. To get a carry license you have to take a gun safety course, why not make it manditory for a Psychiatric evaluation to go along with it. By including this in the process of obtaining a license, we could maybe weed out more people that are wanting to own a gun for maimming the innocense instead of for their own protection. Now I am not a Psychiatrist, but I would think by evauating people you could get a baseline on their charater and psychi state to see if there is a possiblity of a break down. The license has to be renewed so at the renewal time you would have to go have another evaluation. No evaluation NO license, and if you owned a gun then you would be required to turn it over to law enforcement untill you worked through what ever it was that failed the evaluation. I know that this isn't completely fool proof, if we can keep the one on the edge from getting a weapon right when they want it there may be a chance that they will come to their senses and know that taking a life is not the way to handle personal problems I KNOW! taking civilian guns away puts us in danger! There are just so many Police officers and there a millions of civilians and crimials. We have to be able to protect ourselves, with our own firearms, or we will end up ourselves on a morge slab awaiting the coranor knife while the crimial is running around killing others, or setting in a nice rent free 4X9 cell with 3 squares (MEALS), heat in the winter/air in the summer, cable TV, phone calls and visits from family and friends, Oh! and lets not forget all exspence paid gym membership, all his/her medical bills taken care of (So when they get out they are more phyically fit then before, just to go back to what got them thrown in jail or prison). Please tell me what punishment is the crimial facing for his/her actions? NONE if you ask me, the family of those lost to gun violance are the ones paying for the rest of their lives. First I would like to say my heart is weeping for the families and friends of those lost to this earth at VT.

I do not feel that there was any wrong doing by the School. The shooter “Cho” went to that school he was informed of the procedures for all events, be it weather, health, violence, and now days terriost attacks. If the school would have went on full lock down, how on earth does any rational person see that happening, there are thousdans of students staying in houseing (on campus, off campus) On campus would be easy, but off not so much. Yes they could have posted officers at the parking lots blocking them from entery, but what about those walking? The thin layer of Police can’t be everywhere all the time. If they wen’t to full lock down they may have locked the shooter in with the other students, instead of “Cho” going on the “hunt” (as I have heard on the news) if “Cho” just cracked he would not care whom he killed.

Now on to the subject at hand. Hand guns DO NOT kill, it is the person behind the gun that kills. We don’t need our guns taken away they need to be kept away from the crimials. There needs to be some way to prevent mentally disturbed or crimially unstable persons from legally or illegally acquiring fire arms of any kind.

To get a carry license you have to take a gun safety course, why not make it manditory for a Psychiatric evaluation to go along with it. By including this in the process of obtaining a license, we could maybe weed out more people that are wanting to own a gun for maimming the innocense instead of for their own protection. Now I am not a Psychiatrist, but I would think by evauating people you could get a baseline on their charater and psychi state to see if there is a possiblity of a break down. The license has to be renewed so at the renewal time you would have to go have another evaluation. No evaluation NO license, and if you owned a gun then you would be required to turn it over to law enforcement untill you worked through what ever it was that failed the evaluation.

I know that this isn’t completely fool proof, if we can keep the one on the edge from getting a weapon right when they want it there may be a chance that they will come to their senses and know that taking a life is not the way to handle personal problems

I KNOW! taking civilian guns away puts us in danger! There are just so many Police officers and there a millions of civilians and crimials. We have to be able to protect ourselves, with our own firearms, or we will end up ourselves on a morge slab awaiting the coranor knife while the crimial is running around killing others, or setting in a nice rent free 4X9 cell with 3 squares (MEALS), heat in the winter/air in the summer, cable TV, phone calls and visits from family and friends, Oh! and lets not forget all exspence paid gym membership, all his/her medical bills taken care of (So when they get out they are more phyically fit then before, just to go back to what got them thrown in jail or prison).

Please tell me what punishment is the crimial facing for his/her actions? NONE if you ask me, the family of those lost to gun violance are the ones paying for the rest of their lives.

]]> by: L.D. http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1035 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:12:51 +0000 http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1035 It must be remembered that the citizens and government set up gun free zones so events like this is possible. The safest place to commit mass shootings is where no one else is armed. People do not go to military installations, police stations, gun ranges or the like to do crimes. There are too many guns there and people willing to use them. The shootings stop when a good guy with a gun shows up and shoots back. Students in schools, people in churches, visitors in courts as well as other places are all sitting ducks since we prevent honest citizens from being there and possibly stopping a situation like the VA incident. Please note that mass shootings happen in gun free zones. Laws only effect the honest citizen. We have laws against bank robbery but the bank robbers do not care about law. Allow free carry on campus and school shootings will stop. It must be remembered that the citizens and government set up gun free zones so events like this is possible. The safest place to commit mass shootings is where no one else is armed. People do not go to military installations, police stations, gun ranges or the like to do crimes. There are too many guns there and people willing to use them.

The shootings stop when a good guy with a gun shows up and shoots back. Students in schools, people in churches, visitors in courts as well as other places are all sitting ducks since we prevent honest citizens from being there and possibly stopping a situation like the VA incident.

Please note that mass shootings happen in gun free zones. Laws only effect the honest citizen. We have laws against bank robbery but the bank robbers do not care about law. Allow free carry on campus and school shootings will stop.

]]> by: Tommy Lowe http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1034 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:10:29 +0000 http://blog.arklatexblog.com/2007/04/17/33-dead-after-shootings-at-virginia-tech/#comment-1034 Hello, I would like to comment on your question this morning about what should be the way to better protect students at school. Could not find the questionnaire you had on the morning news at 5 a.m. In reference to a: more security, b: gun sales or c: not a security issue- Our school systems in general have always been lacking in security and it always comes down to money. If there is no money for the security of students in the budget; then security is the weakest link. Even if some money is available; there never seems to be enough to do a proper job for the students. The sales of guns are not the issue at all. If the sales of guns are controlled beyond what they already are; then only the criminal, military and law enforcement will have guns, leaving the citizens unable to protect ourselves. The issue of this horrible event I feel is a security and a non-security event. This individual obviously had a mental problem of some sort, and something pushed him over the edge. No amount of security at the college level would have stopped this individual from starting his rampage. Now, if the security had planned in advance how to respond to such incidents; maybe not so many people would have been needlessly murdered for nothing. My heart and prayers go out to each and every one of the families of these innocent victims. This is indeed a tragedy, and I pray that college’s nation wide open their eyes to the need for better security. The restricting of access to campus buildings to one entrance with metal detectors and certified security guards; could possibly be one part of a multifaceted answer to this problem. The answer is not simple; but the safety of our children, not the budget of flowers, gazebos, and other "pretty" projects should be considered even more in light of this tragic event. Hello, I would like to comment on your question this morning about what should be the way to better protect students at school. Could not find the questionnaire you had on the morning news at 5 a.m. In reference to a: more security, b: gun sales or c: not a security issue- Our school systems in general have always been lacking in security and it always comes down to money. If there is no money for the security of students in the budget; then security is the weakest link. Even if some money is available; there never seems to be enough to do a proper job for the students. The sales of guns are not the issue at all. If the sales of guns are controlled beyond what they already are; then only the criminal, military and law enforcement will have guns, leaving the citizens unable to protect ourselves. The issue of this horrible event I feel is a security and a non-security event. This individual obviously had a mental problem of some sort, and something pushed him over the edge. No amount of security at the college level would have stopped this individual from starting his rampage. Now, if the security had planned in advance how to respond to such incidents; maybe not so many people would have been needlessly murdered for nothing. My heart and prayers go out to each and every one of the families of these innocent victims. This is indeed a tragedy, and I pray that college’s nation wide open their eyes to the need for better security. The restricting of access to campus buildings to one entrance with metal detectors and certified security guards; could possibly be one part of a multifaceted answer to this problem. The answer is not simple; but the safety of our children, not the budget of flowers, gazebos, and other “pretty” projects should be considered even more in light of this tragic event.

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